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  1. #21
    Steve 1
    Friggin Loon Yeah Bush has been busy.
    http://today.reuters.com/news/articl...1-ArticlePage2

  2. #22
    SmokinLowriderSS
    Well knothead, seems you need to "refine" your research techniques a bit more.
    Steve discovered China, Japan, Iran.
    To those countries, you can add the folowing companies (search up the nationalities at your leisure):
    Chevron Corp , ExxonMobil Corp. , ConocoPhillips , Marathon Ashland Petroleum, Vitol North Atlantic, Royal Dutch Shell PLC, BP PLC, Total SA, Repsol YPF, ENI SpA, Cepsa, Indian Oil Corp., and Reliance Petroleum.
    By the way, Mr Palasts credibility is heading out the window from this:
    Notably, he has claimed to have uncovered evidence that Florida Governor Jeb Bush, Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris, and Florida Elections Unit Chief Clay Roberts, along with the ChoicePoint corporation, rigged the ballots during the US Presidential Election of 2000 and again in 2004 when, he argued, the problems and machinations from 2000 continued, and that challenger John Kerry actually would have won if not for disproportional "spoilage" of Democratic votes.
    He has "uncovered evidence" .... but NOT USED IT!??!?!!?!?! B.S.flag!.
    A few more idiot-flags................
    Palast has also taken issue with the official story behind the grounding of the Exxon Valdez, claiming that the sobriety of the ValdezÂ’s captain was not an issue in the accident. According to Palast the main cause of the Exxon Valdez accident in 1989 wasn't human error but was, instead due to an Exxon decision to not fix the ship's radar in order to save money. The Raytheon Raycas radar system would not have detected Bligh Reef itself - as radar, unlike sonar, is incapable of detecting objects under the waterline of this ship and is not used for navigation.
    Palast asserts that Reliant Energy maintains a file on him, including false data regarding his sex life, which they distribute as propaganda against him

  3. #23
    Old Texan
    The liberal loon the Knothead reads "religiously" no doubt-
    Greg Palast is a New York Times-bestselling author and a journalist for the British Broadcasting Corporation as well as the British newspaper The Observer. His work frequently focuses on corporate malfeasance but has also been known to work with labor unions and consumer advocacy groups. Notably, he has claimed to have uncovered evidence that Florida Governor Jeb Bush, Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris, and Florida Elections Unit Chief Clay Roberts, along with the ChoicePoint corporation, rigged the ballots during the US Presidential Election of 2000 and again in 2004 when, he argued, the problems and machinations from 2000 continued, and that challenger John Kerry actually would have won if not for disproportional "spoilage" of Democratic votes
    Republican / Conservative conspiracies everywhere! Don't we all feel safer with Greg ferreting them out. Probably also moonlights for Mikey Moore getting he real "dirt".

  4. #24
    SmokinLowriderSS
    You mean ferretting out the real "cheese" with MM? Fromunda cheese, his favorite I expect.

  5. #25
    bigq
    Knotbad <------http://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/happy/happy0188.gif

  6. #26
    eliminatedsprinter
    Nope, brazil has been on e85 for years and most of europe is switching to it.
    Brazil makes it from cane suger. Suger cane is something they have huge amounts of and produces much greater yealds, than the corn we would use does. Even then, it is not always cheaper than gasoline. Brazilian drivers carry calculators so they can figure out what is cheaper to put in their cars (which they don't have near as many of as we do) at any givin time. In short Brazil has a far cheaper and more plentiful supply of it and a far, far lower demand for it than the U.S. would have.
    P.S. The smog in Rio and other Brazilian urban centers is far worse than in U.S. cities.

  7. #27
    Old Texan
    Brazil makes it from cane suger. Suger cane is something they have huge amounts of and produces much greater yealds, than the corn we would use does. Even then, it is not always cheaper than gasoline. Brazilian drivers carry calculators so they can figure out what is cheaper to put in their cars (which they don't have near as many of as we do) at any givin time. In short Brazil has a far cheaper and more plentiful supply of it and a far, far lower demand for it than the U.S. would have.
    P.S. The smog in Rio and other Brazilian urban centers is far worse than in U.S. cities.
    Check the number of ethanol plants being built throughout the midwest. Ethanol is here to stay. The feedstock ranges from potato peelings to liquor byproduct from papermills. There is a tremendous supply of raw materials available and being used to produce ethanol.

  8. #28
    eliminatedsprinter
    Check the number of ethanol plants being built throughout the midwest. Ethanol is here to stay. The feedstock ranges from potato peelings to liquor byproduct from papermills. There is a tremendous supply of raw materials available and being used to produce ethanol.
    I'm aware of that.
    My point is simply, that our situation is different than Brazils'. Brazil took 30 years to get where they are with ethanol and (while it is helpful) it is not the end all be all solution for them or us especially with our much higher demand market. But I am all for its' developement through private interprise.
    New drilling, new refineries, ethanol, etc, etc, it all helps and it is all needed. Lets get our government hacks out of the way, so it can get done.

  9. #29
    QuickJet
    And the "prize" is of course Iraq's oil, which bu$h wants. The first thing protected after we took Baghdad was Iraq's Oil Ministry buildings. Then Rumdummy sent troops to protect the oil ports. What he didn't(couldn't) protect were the pipelines, which the insurgents sabotage faster than we can rebuild.
    But that's ok because we're building 14 military bases in Iraq, some of which will be close to the oil ports. Allah forbid the Iraqis should have control of their own resources.
    So what's your point here? Do you really think that the Iraqies could protect the oil any better. We left them to protect the pipeline and look what happend. What if we left it ALL up to them to protect? They would have nothing. And get this, they want us to protect it. Without us it gets destroyed and they have nothing.
    Are you really as dumb as you make yourself out to be or are you just acting this stupid to make blown look smarter?

  10. #30
    AzMandella
    Nope, brazil has been on e85 for years and most of europe is switching to it.
    You better do little more reasearch there brainiac.Yes Brazil has been one of the countries to try using ethenal.But at this point it's still 50/50 ethanol usage and gasoline.Not mixing it mind you.Now they are using sugar caine to make their ethanol.But they are finding that they cannot regrow cain fast enough to make up for what they use.You have to take into account that it takes twice as much ethanol to produce the same amount as energy as gasoline.In otherwords it takes 2 gal of ethanol to go the same distance as a gallon of gasoline.Mathmaticians have calculated that we would need a corn crop the size of Texas and turn it over 3 times a year to produce enough ethanol to meet the american need for fuel.A pretty hard feat to be done and next to impossible considering you can't grow corn year round.But go ahead and continue to grace us with your brilliance Blown.

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