for those that think the people asking for their money back is not right, you should read the thread to understand the complete situation.
We gave our money freely. Then it comes to light that the donation drive was ran by later's wife who did not disclose who she was and acted like she was a fellow boater and even said her "check" is in the mail. And then all the people supporting later who were newbies with the exact same grammatical errors. One thing that stands out in these newbie/alias's is that there is no space after the period in the next sentence. Even then, those of us that gave didn't want our money back. But, it was later that insisted it was not a scam and to prove it, he said he would refund the money...so we held his feet to the fire. And the reason we chose to hold his feet to the fire was that he was still on HB posting away. If I got scammed, no big deal. But if the scammer is hanging around doing a perverbial "nahh nahh, na nahh nahh" then most of you at minimum would attempt to kick the guy in the nuts. The money is no big deal. But, it is kind of like Squirten Thunder saying he would "stomp a hole in some one's ass and walk it dry" to someone who owed him money while he himself is not paying people.
later admitted to the whole donation thing not being a well thought out plan. It was a desparate act in a desparate time. Still wrong, but he seems hell bent on having a ***boat redemption. I have talked to the guy and he is way more articulate than he posts.
BTW - We know where this guy lives and where his inlaws live. We know where he works, and he does not make much money. We know his phone numbers. Some of us know even more - even more than mrs. later - which probably isn't saying much since we all knew that later was thinking about divorcing her before she knew.