If you wanna escape any of the drama on here just do what I did and join www.offshoreonly.com the site is friggin huge and ANYTHING you need to know about boats is on there. Same type of general discussion area minus the BS. To be a member is free but to go to some of the other areas of the board you need to upgrade. We even have our own lil cloan of Jordy over there, his name is Stecz20.