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Thread: Israel to drop the nukes on Iran

  1. #1
    Well here we go! So much for secret plans.
    So will this help or will it hurt the war on Terror? Personally I think a time will come when Israel will no longer listen to the USA because of self preservation. I also think that if Iran does get a nuclear weapon it will use it on Israel while that nutbag is in power. He is a very smart man, but a loose cannon.
    ISRAEL has drawn up secret plans to destroy IranÂ’s uranium enrichment facilities with tactical nuclear weapons.
    Two Israeli air force squadrons are training to blow up an Iranian facility using low-yield nuclear “bunker-busters”, according to several Israeli military sources.
    The attack would be the first with nuclear weapons since 1945, when the United States dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The Israeli weapons would each have a force equivalent to one-fifteenth of the Hiroshima bomb.
    Under the plans, conventional laser-guided bombs would open “tunnels” into the targets. “Mini-nukes” would then immediately be fired into a plant at Natanz, exploding deep underground to reduce the risk of radioactive fallout.
    “As soon as the green light is given, it will be one mission, one strike and the Iranian nuclear project will be demolished,” said one of the sources.
    The plans, disclosed to The Sunday Times last week, have been prompted in part by the Israeli intelligence service MossadÂ’s assessment that Iran is on the verge of producing enough enriched uranium to make nuclear weapons within two years.
    Israeli military commanders believe conventional strikes may no longer be enough to annihilate increasingly well-defended enrichment facilities. Several have been built beneath at least 70ft of concrete and rock. However, the nuclear-tipped bunker-busters would be used only if a conventional attack was ruled out and if the United States declined to intervene, senior sources said.
    Israeli and American officials have met several times to consider military action. Military analysts said the disclosure of the plans could be intended to put pressure on Tehran to halt enrichment, cajole America into action or soften up world opinion in advance of an Israeli attack.
    Some analysts warned that Iranian retaliation for such a strike could range from disruption of oil supplies to the West to terrorist attacks against Jewish targets around the world.
    Israel has identified three prime targets south of Tehran which are believed to be involved in IranÂ’s nuclear programme:
    # Natanz, where thousands of centrifuges are being installed for uranium enrichment
    # A uranium conversion facility near Isfahan where, according to a statement by an Iranian vice-president last week, 250 tons of gas for the enrichment process have been stored in tunnels
    # A heavy water reactor at Arak, which may in future produce enough plutonium for a bomb
    Israeli officials believe that destroying all three sites would delay Iran’s nuclear programme indefinitely and prevent them from having to live in fear of a “second Holocaust”.
    The Israeli government has warned repeatedly that it will never allow nuclear weapons to be made in Iran, whose president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has declared that “Israel must be wiped off the map”.
    Robert Gates, the new US defence secretary, has described military action against Iran as a “last resort”, leading Israeli officials to conclude that it will be left to them to strike.
    Israeli pilots have flown to Gibraltar in recent weeks to train for the 2,000-mile round trip to the Iranian targets. Three possible routes have been mapped out, including one over Turkey.
    Air force squadrons based at Hatzerim in the Negev desert and Tel Nof, south of Tel Aviv, have trained to use IsraelÂ’s tactical nuclear weapons on the mission. The preparations have been overseen by Major General Eliezer Shkedi, commander of the Israeli air force.
    Sources close to the Pentagon said the United States was highly unlikely to give approval for tactical nuclear weapons to be used. One source said Israel would have to seek approval “after the event”, as it did when it crippled Iraq’s nuclear reactor at Osirak with airstrikes in 1981.
    Scientists have calculated that although contamination from the bunker-busters could be limited, tons of radioactive uranium compounds would be released.
    The Israelis believe that IranÂ’s retaliation would be constrained by fear of a second strike if it were to launch its Shehab-3 ballistic missiles at Israel.
    However, American experts warned of repercussions, including widespread protests that could destabilise parts of the Islamic world friendly to the West.
    Colonel Sam Gardiner, a Pentagon adviser, said Iran could try to close the Strait of Hormuz, the route for 20% of the worldÂ’s oil.
    Some sources in Washington said they doubted if Israel would have the nerve to attack Iran. However, Dr Ephraim Sneh, the deputy Israeli defence minister, said last month: “The time is approaching when Israel and the international community will have to decide whether to take military action against Iran.”

  2. #2
    It's about time. Wish they would use something a bit bigger than just bunker busters though.

  3. #3
    I fully expect Isreal to do something prior to Iran producing nukes. With the madman taking about wiping them off the face of the earth and so forth they will not stnad by and watch it happen.
    I hate to see it in my lifetime but something will happen over the next year or two for sure. Self-preservation is their justification.
    Of course if Iran changes their path on their own this all changes but what are the odds that will happen? 0%

  4. #4
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    I think you'll see the Jews in Israel take the following approach with regards to Iran wanting to exterminate them..
    Fock me once, shame on you (Hitler in WW2)
    Fock me twice, shame on me (I don't think you'll see this option)

  5. #5
    Bow Tie Omega
    Honestly, I think they should go a little bigger then a tactical nuke. I am not saying to kill off the entire country, although it is tempting. Enough to get the message across to not F with us, there is more and bigger just waiting for the word "GO!!!".

  6. #6
    Poster X
    Not only can you geniuses NOT be my latex salesmen, I can no longer let you near my nuclear arsenal. A nuclear weapon going off in your back yard will still kill the shrubery in your front yard. Now say that ten times and go read some Dilbert.

  7. #7
    Not only can you geniuses NOT be my latex salesmen, I can no longer let you near my nuclear arsenal. A nuclear weapon going off in your back yard will still kill the shrubery in your front yard. Now say that ten times and go read some Dilbert.
    Thank got it's a few blocks over.....Bombs away!!!

  8. #8
    centerhill condor
    in any event...we shouldn't have given nukes to anyone. Now we know and can move forward. Atoms for peace for humans...what were we thinking?
    Now, everybody has a legitmate reason for a pre-emptive strike.
    this gives skynet a reason and means.

  9. #9
    Old Texan
    I believe China is in the process of laying down the law with Iran. Hopefully cooler more powerful heads can prevail and tone the Iranian "posturing" down and keep their weapons program a nonfactor.
    Even strategic nuclear weapons usage should never be allowed.

  10. #10
    Israel denies plans to use nukes on Iran.........Report was BS........MP

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