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Thread: Catalytic Converters>>>> You Bet,

  1. #1
    Not So Fast
    At least thats what this months Hot Boat says. California will be the test bed and it will begin on anything sold after Jan1, 2008. Questions, how many builders will vacate Cally, how does this get enforced, will we have smog inspections and how????? Seems lame to me. At least the article says it will be required only on 496 and lower horse power motors and not affect any existing motors or the racing division motors. So maybe if you are buying a new boat you will want to get it delivered before that date. NSF

  2. #2
    Dribble
    At least thats what this months Hot Boat says. California will be the test bed and it will begin on anything sold after Jan1, 2008. Questions, how many builders will vacate Cally, how does this get enforced, will we have smog inspections and how????? Seems lame to me. At least the article says it will be required only on 496 and lower horse power motors and not affect any existing motors or the racing division motors. So maybe if you are buying a new boat you will want to get it delivered before that date. NSF
    I don't think any builders will vacate Cali. They will still have to comply to sell a new boat here. There will never be a smog check program for boats. Can't be done because you can't run water through an analyzer.

  3. #3
    shockwaveharry
    Since this converter thing is EPA backed, I don't think too many builders are going to move their companys out of state just to have to conform anyway 2 years down the road. There will be a price advantage of at least a few thousand dollars to builders out of state in the short run but I don't think it will last for long. Cali builders will just have to absorb it for a few years if they are compeating with an out of state builder. It seems the smog burden is on the motor mfg's like Mercruiser and Indmar, etc. They have to have a percentage of their power packages meet a certain emissions level to lower the average accross the line up. As the years go by, that percentage will be pushed higher and higher, just like CAFE (Corperate Average Fuel Economy) standards for auto mfg's. I wonder how it will effect builders installing customers custom motors? Will they be allowed to "officially" sell a boat less power?
    I don't think there will be smog checks but if lakes and rivers only allow boats on that meet the "Star" standards, I would imagine there could be a visual inspection whenever you launch. I heard Diamond Vally Lake is doing that right now.

  4. #4
    SummitKarl
    YIKES!!!!!!! hope they can't go retroactive on this:jawdrop:
    I wonder just how they plan to do it....actually put a CAT that works on heat into a watercooled exhaust
    what else is there, dump water in post CAT. thats a big red glowing ball of death in a engine compartment:jawdrop:

  5. #5
    SB
    That's right, people are going to die from this stupidity.
    BTW, marine emission are less than 1% of total emissions, so even if marine engines were totally eliminated, it would not make a measurable effect.
    Liberals should have a bounty on their heads.

  6. #6
    shockwaveharry
    Here's the first one out from Indmar. Looks like a pretty nice piece. Negligable increase in engine compartment heat (same increase as installing closed cooling), no loss in performance and a 12-28% increase in fuel economy because they operate in closed loop, rich/lean feedback from an o2 sensor. I'd carry an extra sensor in my tool kit though... They die just from condensation sometimes!
    http://www.indmar.com/Innovations/ET...cutawayweb.png

  7. #7
    robk
    Here's the first one out from Indmar. Looks like a pretty nice piece. Negligable increase in engine compartment heat (same increase as installing closed cooling), no loss in performance and a 12-28% increase in fuel economy because they operate in closed loop, rich/lean feedback from an o2 sensor. I'd carry an extra sensor in my tool kit though... They die just from condensation sometimes!
    http://www.indmar.com/Innovations/ET...cutawayweb.png
    The best part about O2 sensors is when they gall the threads on the exhaust when you attempt to remove one.
    The increase in fuel economy doesn't sound bad at all.... Wonder how performance is affected.
    Rob

  8. #8
    YeLLowBoaT
    That's right, people are going to die from this stupidity.
    BTW, marine emission are less than 1% of total emissions, so even if marine engines were totally eliminated, it would not make a measurable effect.
    Liberals should have a bounty on their heads.
    It has less to do with emissions and more do to do with dumb ass killing themselfs With CO.

  9. #9
    shockwaveharry
    It has less to do with emissions and more do to do with dumb ass killing themselfs With CO.
    The cats will reduce the deaths of dumb asses across the country. I say man should not interfere with natural selection...

  10. #10
    SummitKarl
    It has less to do with emissions and more do to do with dumb ass killing themselfs With CO.
    they will still die...it will just take a minute or two longer

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