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  1. #21
    ULTRA26 # 1
    Why are you being so obtuse? The name for those who favor no gov't is ANARCHISTS!
    As I said most of the self-proclaimed "anarchists" I've seen interviewed, like the little bitch protesters, are merely radical lefties and nowhere near anarchists. The call themselves this because they are severely confused and don't understand that when anarchy reigns anarchists will be targeted.
    Sorry I wasn't pointed enough. Your post came across as if you didn't think about one word you said. More like you opened your leftist hate faucet and until the sink was overflowing. An Anarchist, one who believes in no government, is not a leftist extremist, or an enviro-terrorist type tree-hugger. Your post contradicted itself. If your own tendencies toward the obtuse, cause you to be unable to understand this, I suggest that you sharpen your communication skills.
    Rather than continue with your leftist hate babble, why not take a stand on why your views are better for this Country.

  2. #22
    eliminatedsprinter
    Sorry I wasn't pointed enough. Your post came across as if you didn't think about one word you said. More like you opened your leftist hate faucet and until the sink was overflowing. An Anarchist, one who believes in no government, is not a leftist extremist, or an enviro-terrorist type tree-hugger. Your post contradicted itself. If your own tendencies toward the obtuse, cause you to be unable to understand this, I suggest that you sharpen your communication skills.
    Rather than continue with your leftist hate babble, why not take a stand on why your views are better for this Country.
    Nevertheless he has a good point that, the vast majority of young radicals, who think they are protesting for freedom, are in their ignorance, carrying water for those who would have us all living in a more authoritarian state. :idea:

  3. #23
    ULTRA26 # 1
    Nevertheless he has a good point that, the vast majority of young radicals, who think they are protesting for freedom, are in their ignorance, carrying water for those who would have us all living in a more authoritarian state. :idea:
    ES,
    I'm sorry I fail to see the connection between my comment and the anti-leftist rant. The freedom protesters during the Vietnam era were for the most part from the political left. You defined my comment about those who desire no government, as being Antichrists. One with political views from the left or right, by definition, is not an Anarchist.

  4. #24
    Old Texan
    ES,
    I'm sorry I fail to see the connection between my comment and the anti-leftist rant. The freedom protesters during the Vietnam era were for the most part from the political left. You defined my comment about those who desire no government, as being Antichrists. One with political views from the left or right, by definition, is not an Anarchist.

  5. #25
    eliminatedsprinter
    ES,
    I'm sorry I fail to see the connection between my comment and the anti-leftist rant. The freedom protesters during the Vietnam era were for the most part from the political left. You defined my comment about those who desire no government, as being Antichrists. One with political views from the left or right, by definition, is not an Anarchist.
    Actually, by definition, a true anarchist is a far right winger, because true anarchists are very anti socialist and anti communist. Anarchist are by definition opposed to all government and political authority.
    Anti-left by definition is anti communist and or socialist. The fact that so many people confuse leftism with liberalism does not make those mistaken people correct.
    The peace protestors were mostly liberals, but many of them were "Jesus Freaks" and thus could not be communists. Of the "Jesus Freaks" many were no doubt socialists. However it is and always has been possible to be a passivist and or a social liberal without being either a socialist or a communist.
    My comment was more related to those young people (like myself when I was young) who are being used my power hungry leftists (people who desire more socialist style government control) ie. the Maxine Waters or Nancy Pelosi crowd. Not the peace or civil rights protestors of the sixties.

  6. #26
    eliminatedsprinter
    ES,
    I'm sorry I fail to see the connection between my comment and the anti-leftist rant. The freedom protesters during the Vietnam era were for the most part from the political left. You defined my comment about those who desire no government, as being Antichrists. One with political views from the left or right, by definition, is not an Anarchist.
    Actually, by definition, a true anarchist is a far right winger, because true anarchists are very anti socialist and anti communist. Anarchist are by definition opposed to all government and political authority.
    Anti-left by definition is anti communist and or socialist. The fact that so many people confuse leftism with liberalism does not make those mistaken people correct.
    The peace protestors were mostly liberals, but many of them were "Jesus Freaks" and thus could not be communists. Of the "Jesus Freaks" many were no doubt socialists. However it is and always has been possible to be a passivist and or a social liberal without being either a socialist or a communist.
    My comment was more related to those young people (like myself when I was young) who are being used my power hungry leftists (people who desire more socialist style government control) ie. the Maxine Waters or Nancy Pelosi crowd. Not the peace or civil rights protestors of the sixties.

  7. #27
    ULTRA26 # 1
    Actually, by definition, a true anarchist is a far right winger, because true anarchists are very anti socialist and anti communist. Anarchist are by definition opposed to all government and political authority.
    Anti-left by definition is anti communist and or socialist. The fact that so many people confuse leftism with liberalism does not make those mistaken people correct.
    The peace protestors were mostly liberals, but many of them were "Jesus Freaks" and thus could not be communists. Of the "Jesus Freaks" many were no doubt socialists. However it is and always has been possible to be a passivist and or a social liberal without being either a socialist or a communist.
    My comment was more related to those young people (like myself when I was young) who are being used my power hungry leftists (people who desire more socialist style government control) ie. the Maxine Waters or Nancy Pelosi crowd. Not the peace or civil rights protestors of the sixties.
    Agreed, now that you reminded me of what Anarchist means.

  8. #28
    '75 Miller
    Sorry I wasn't pointed enough. Your post came across as if you didn't think about one word you said. More like you opened your leftist hate faucet and until the sink was overflowing. An Anarchist, one who believes in no government, is not a leftist extremist, or an enviro-terrorist type tree-hugger.
    My leftist hate faucet...that's good. And you're right, I do hate leftists....in every way. They are the enemy of Liberty and therefore should be dealt with in the most extreme way possible.
    What I was attempting to do is answer your question: Anarchist is the term for those who favor no gov't. I then went on to point out, badly I guess, that the wee pussies that like to call themselves anarchists these days are actually radical "progressives". They claim to want to bring down the gov't, but that claim is a lie.
    I later went on to point out that if, somehow these rejects got what they claim to want they'd not be around very long to enjoy it.
    Can't make it much clearer than that.

  9. #29
    ULTRA26 # 1
    My leftist hate faucet...that's good. And you're right, I do hate leftists....in every way. They are the enemy of Liberty and therefore should be dealt with in the most extreme way possible.
    What I was attempting to do is answer your question: Anarchist is the term for those who favor no gov't. I then went on to point out, badly I guess, that the wee pussies that like to call themselves anarchists these days are actually radical "progressives". They claim to want to bring down the gov't, but that claim is a lie.
    I later went on to point out that if, somehow these rejects got what they claim to want they'd not be around very long to enjoy it.
    Can't make it much clearer than that.
    Much, much better
    ................................C.........E....... ..N.........T........E........R................... ............
    left communist socialist liberal democrat republican conservative capitalist anarchist right
    Don't most of us fall somewhere within the CENTER?

  10. #30
    '75 Miller
    Much, much better
    ................................C.........E....... ..N.........T........E........R................... ............
    left communist socialist liberal democrat republican conservative capitalist anarchist right
    Don't most of us fall somewhere within the CENTER?
    Nope. Well, at least I don't think so. Speaking for myself I can't think of one "democrat" idea or position that I agree with. Not that there aren't dems who's personal positions I agree with, but as far as party platform, Nyet!
    Abortion, taxes, national security, Iraq, border, gun Rights, oil drilling, judges, queer "rights", the environment, education, individual rights and responsibilities, health care, etc. None of it.
    Perhaps one of you can point out something the dems stand for that is worthy of getting behind....anything's possible.

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