The topic of drinking and boating has come up again, fueled by the death of an 8 year old girl in a boating collision that MAY have had alcohol as a contributing factor.
The camps have squared off, and verbal jabs have been thrown about. I'm not about to jump in with something as boring as facts, as I've really become tired of typing the same things over and over again.
Statistics have been alluded to and used, often skewed, to make the writer's point. Unless you include all the information, statistics are just numbers.
Rather than just throwing figures about, I've decided to put out as much information on the subect as I can, in one place. So you all can read a little more than just, 35% this and 19% that. Once you've read the articles and absorbed all the information, you can be better able to understand the situation, instead of relying on the emotions of the moment. Some of them are a few years old, but the information is still topical.
So for your reading pleasure:
http://powerboat.about.com/od/safety...oating_BUI.htm
http://www.boatus.com/foundation/fin...ol_boating.htm
http://www.madd.org/docs/BUI_Overview.doc
http://www.amica.com/aboutUs/magazin...ng_alcohol.htm
http://www.jhsph.edu/PublicHealthNew...1/boating.html
http://www.1800duilaws.com/article/b...ohol_drugs.asp
http://www.hsrc.unc.edu/safety_info/...ng_boating.cfm
http://www.dbw.ca.gov/Pubs/Alcohol/ba.pdf
http://www.uscgboating.org/waypoints..._influence.htm
http://www.scienceblog.com/community...200112474.html
http://boatingsailing.suite101.com/a...se_and_boating
http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content...urcetype=HWCIT
http://www.americanboating.org/alcoh..._accidents.asp
http://www.bunganutlake.org/alcohol.htm
http://www.boatingsafety.com/alcohol.htm
Now you have gone and done it!
"Water on the Water and Beer on the Pier".
I am astounded that one can have an open container in a moving boat.
How do you prove the drink in the cup holder with in arms reach is not the drivers?
PS I saw you guys ( po po ) at the dam on Thursday at around 6:30pmish !
Thanks for keeping me and mine safe.
Alan,
I'm curious about the 100% enforcement program at Lake Pleasant. I hadn't heard of it until Froggystyle referenced it earlier.
It sounds like around 1% of boaters boat, drink, and head through a checkstop they knew would be there before they left their house in the morning. Wild.
By all means enjoy the lake. Bring your cooler or bring your boat but not both please. We love our families and are tired of unsafe conditions at the lake. It's a vehicle, for heaven's sake. Why is that so hard to understand? It's a shame to think we need more deaths to convince those who refuse to believe it will happen to them.
Just a thought:
I purchased all my boats with the money I never spent on booze of any kind?
Good trade for me and my family!
Thanks for takin' the time, BC. I'm as guilty as anyone else of indulging and driving more than a few times but all the threads about people dying uselessly on the water has made me take a look at what's really at stake. Besides the loss of life, everyone should just stop and think what it would feel like to have boating ruined for you forever! Nobody who was involved in that incident will probably ever be able to hardly look at a boat again without throwing up.
I for one do not want to be the one that ruined boating for myself, my family, my friends and their families forever. So I guess from now on it will be Gatorade until we're back at the dock. Luckily I am still in boat bitch mode so I go to town on the Jell-O shooters and beer. But I'll be sure to keep a sober driver behind the wheel. I challenge all the rest of you to do the same.
Eight-year-old dies after boats collide
http://www.havasunews.com/articles/2...ews/news03.txt
By DAVID BELL
Sunday, August 5, 2007 9:55 PM MST
An 8-year-old Temecula, Calif. girl died in a two-boat collision on the Colorado River Saturday.
The collision occurred about one-half mile south of the Interstate 40 Bridge, at about 5:50 p.m., said San Bernardino County Sheriff's Office spokesperson Cindy Beavers.
The unidentified girl suffered severe injuries to the head as well as a compound fracture of the left arm. She was transported to Valley View Hospital in Ft. Mohave where she was pronounced dead at 8:30 p.m.
Four others were injured in the crash. A 13-year-old girl from Yucaipa, Calif., suffered injuries to her mouth, and a person identified as Michael Brandon, 47, sustained injuries to the head and chest. They were transported to Valley View Hospital before being transferred to Las Vegas area hospitals.
It did not sound that their injuries were life threatening, Beavers said.
Beavers said the deceased girl was riding on a deck styled boat and two others aboard suffered minor injuries as a result of the crash. They were both were transported to Colorado River Medical Center in Needles. The nature of their injuries was not disclosed.
Brandon and the 13-year-old girl were riding on a boat Beavers described as a V-hull with an open bow. Two others - a woman and child - were sitting in the bow of the second boat at the time of the crash and were both ejected into the water. However, neither the woman nor child suffered any injuries from the accident.
Cause of the collision is under investigation. Alcohol is believed to be a factor.
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Sad thing is few REALLY Care.
They consider boating drunk a God given right.
Post a Tubing or Wake boarding thread and "they" all put there beers down to jump on the thread.
With all do repect and appreciation for what you guys go thru, A couple of questions. Back in the day when I learned all about boating and safety it seemed to me there were a few laws regarding boat speed on any inland waterway and wake damage to any other vessel be it moored anchored or docked the vessel creating damage is liable for said damage? I will bet here comes alot of thoughts before hearing from someone that actually knows. A response would be greatly appreciated.
With all do repect and appreciation for what you guys go thru, A couple of questions. Back in the day when I learned all about boating and safety it seemed to me there were a few laws regarding boat speed on any inland waterway and wake damage to any other vessel be it moored anchored or docked the vessel creating damage is liable for said damage? I will bet here comes alot of thoughts before hearing from someone that actually knows. A response would be greatly appreciated.
The laws back in the day still apply now. Every boater is responsible for their wake and any damage that the wake may cause.
Arizona:
5-343. Speed restrictions; excessive wake
No person shall operate a watercraft in excess of the posted limit or at a speed greater than is reasonable and prudent under the conditions and having regard to the actual and potential hazards then existing. In every event, speed shall be so controlled as may be necessary to avoid colliding with any person or other watercraft, swamping other watercraft or otherwise endangering the lives or property of other persons.
California:
655. (a) No person shall use any vessel or manipulate water skis,
an aquaplane, or a similar device in a reckless or negligent manner
so as to endanger the life, limb, or property of any person. The
department shall adopt regulations for the use of vessels, water
skis, aquaplanes, or similar devices in a manner that will minimize
the danger to life, limb, or property consistent with reasonable use
of the equipment for the purpose for which it was designed.
and
661. (a) Every owner of an undocumented vessel numbered under this
code is liable and responsible for the death of or injury to person
or property resulting from negligence in the operation of such
vessel, in the business of the owner or otherwise, by any person
using and operating the same with the permission, express or implied,
of the owner, and the negligence of such person shall be imputed to
the owner for all purposes of civil damage. It shall be presumed
that such vessel is being operated with the knowledge and consent of
the owner if at the time of the injury, death or damage it is under
the control of his or her spouse, father, mother, brother, sister,
son, daughter, or other immediate member of the owner's family.
Nothing contained in this chapter shall be construed to relieve any
person from any liability which he would otherwise have, but nothing
contained in this chapter shall be construed to authorize or permit
any recovery in excess of injury or damage actually incurred.
The topic of drinking and boating has come up again, fueled by the death of an 8 year old girl in a boating collision that MAY have had alcohol as a contributing factor.
The camps have squared off, and verbal jabs have been thrown about. I'm not about to jump in with something as boring as facts, as I've really become tired of typing the same things over and over again.
Statistics have been alluded to and used, often skewed, to make the writer's point. Unless you include all the information, statistics are just numbers.
Rather than just throwing figures about, I've decided to put out as much information on the subect as I can, in one place. So you all can read a little more than just, 35% this and 19% that. Once you've read the articles and absorbed all the information, you can be better able to understand the situation, instead of relying on the emotions of the moment. Some of them are a few years old, but the information is still topical.
So for your reading pleasure:
http://powerboat.about.com/od/safety...oating_BUI.htm
http://www.boatus.com/foundation/fin...ol_boating.htm
http://www.madd.org/docs/BUI_Overview.doc
http://www.amica.com/aboutUs/magazin...ng_alcohol.htm
http://www.jhsph.edu/PublicHealthNew...1/boating.html
http://www.1800duilaws.com/article/b...ohol_drugs.asp
http://www.hsrc.unc.edu/safety_info/...ng_boating.cfm
http://www.dbw.ca.gov/Pubs/Alcohol/ba.pdf
http://www.uscgboating.org/waypoints..._influence.htm
http://www.scienceblog.com/community...200112474.html
http://boatingsailing.suite101.com/a...se_and_boating
http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content...urcetype=HWCIT
http://www.americanboating.org/alcoh..._accidents.asp
http://www.bunganutlake.org/alcohol.htm
http://www.boatingsafety.com/alcohol.htm
Good Job BC, sorry this little girl had to pay the ultimate price for doing nothing but being a little girl enjoying the river with her family.. I would love to see all the idiots get thrown in jail when drinking and driving..my dad was almost killed by a drunk driver about 7 years ago and to this day I can't forget the picture of his body laying in ICU and waiting for results as I stood over him praying he that he would be OK wondering what I will tell my family when I have to make the call.. Thank GOD he survived but others don't...Sorry to say I know people that drink and drive while boating..These idiots (yes I called them idiots) are lucky they have not killed anyone yet but their number may come up someday and I don't want to be around when it does....Again, BC Thanks for your effort.....
I have followed the one drink per hour rule a few times this year along with some water in between. Is this acceptable to anyone?
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