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[ULTRA26 # 1]

"OUR TEAM has been in charge for 7 years", and will be gone, to your great glee in 2008, yet "You don't have a team".
Good god, talk about speaking from both sides of your mouth.
You pay absolutely ZERO attention to the activities and plans of the congress, don't you. THAT much is blatantly abvious.
Just about every one of the democrats in power were trying to run the soldiers out, and dear John Murtha, the gutless one without the balls to direc tly defund the troops, has TRIEDE to put in restrictions on funding, involving equipment readiness levels.
Fail to meet the requirement of available equipment, fail to get funding for train ing AND deployments.
A LOT of equipment is positioned in the desert, used by all units rotating in and out of there, which they DO NOT HAVE on hand, since it is over there.
That is gutless BACKHAND de-funding the soldiers.
I listened to a recording of his OWN WORDS describing it. He sure thought it was a good idea, then it became public knowledge (well, to those who pay attention anyway.)
You'd have to pay attention to be aware of this tho.
That or "investigate".:idea:
Smokin just relieved some tension. Wipe yourself off and run along, weekend boy.

[ULTRA26 # 1]

Just where does it STOP?
Another $20 a year to study the sex life of a certain zooplankton?
Another $50 a year to buy and maintain ANOTHER national park?
Another $10 a year to pay for another congressional pay raise?
Another $1000 a year to prop up a failed govt giveaway program?
Another $3,000 a year for "free" medical care?
This is the exact gun controll arguement. Incremental reason.
A bite here, a tiny bite there, another bite over here next time, another bite over here, eventually, the whole pizza is gone, given away piece by piece.
Where is the line to say "NO MORE!" ?
What was the top tax bracket during WWII smart guy?

[ULTRA26 # 1]

WRONG!
Thought "You don't have a team". :idea:
Someone asked I answered. Not sure of how I will vote in 08.

[eliminatedsprinter]

What was the top tax bracket during WWII smart guy?
Relevance???
One of the many problems with our gawdawfull income tax is, that what was rich, is now middle class and the tax brackets have not kept up. The result is that middle class (even lower middle class) people are now paying tax rates the were supposed to be only for the ultra (26 ) rich when the income tax scam was initially forced upon us.

[ULTRA26 # 1]

Relevance???
One of the many problems with our gawdawfull income tax is, that what was rich, is now middle class and the tax brackets have not kept up. The result is that middle class (even lower middle class) people are now paying tax rates the were supposed to be only for the ultra (26 ) rich when the income tax scam was initially forced upon us.
That is my point. The middle and upper middle class carry the majority of the tax burden. I have read that during and after WWII the Ultra (26 rich were considered to be in a 70% tax bracket. Reagan lowered the top bracket to 28% and Clinton bumped it back in the high 30's. Please don't get me wrong, I'm fed up with taxes as much as you are. The entire tax structure is broken. A flat tax or maybe even the Fair Tax, but I agree that something needs to be done.
I tired of the rich getting all of the tax breaks while my share continues to go up.

[eliminatedsprinter]

That is my point. The middle and upper middle class carry the majority of the tax burden. I have read that during and after WWII the Ultra (26 rich were considered to be in a 70% tax bracket. Reagan lowered the top bracket to 28% and Clinton bumped it back in the high 30's. Please don't get me wrong, I'm fed up with taxes as much as you are. The entire tax structure is broken. A flat tax or maybe even the Fair Tax, but I agree that something needs to be done.
I tired of the rich getting all of the tax breaks while my share continues to go up.
Anything over 25% for anyone is draconian.
Sales tax is the only fair way to tax the public. Income tax is inherently authoritarian and unfair.

[ULTRA26 # 1]

Anything over 25% for anyone is draconian.
Sales tax is the only fair way to tax the public. Income tax is inherently authoritarian and unfair.
Seems a flat tax between 15 & 20% with no write offs or deductions would be fair, simple and way less complex. Again, I believe that IRS is broken beyond repair. Huckabee suggests that a National Sales tax, or Fair Tax of 23% would be sufficient. According to others the Fair Tax needs to be somewhere between 32 and 35%. I have yet to see supporting data.

[eliminatedsprinter]

Seems a flat tax between 15 & 20% with no write offs or deductions would be fair, simple and way less complex. Again, I believe that IRS is broken beyond repair. Huckabee suggests that a National Sales tax, or Fair Tax of 23% would be sufficient. According to others the Fair Tax needs to be somewhere between 32 and 35%. I have yet to see supporting data.
I agree 100% that the IRS is broken beyond repair and it is something a nation that is rooted in the concept of individual liberty should never have.
The studies that I read (a few years ago) showed that a 23% sales tax would result in the federal government being much better funded than it is under our current tax code.

[ULTRA26 # 1]

I agree 100% that the IRS is broken beyond repair and it is something a nation that is rooted in the concept of individual liberty should never have.
The studies that I read (a few years ago) showed that a 23% sales tax would result in the federal government being much better funded than it is under our current tax code.
From what I understand so far, seems like it would be a better way. Problem as I see it is that it will never happen in my lifetime.

[never_fast_enuf]

I tired of the rich getting all of the tax breaks while my share continues to go up.
Really? Have you researched that?
The top 1% of income earners pay about 32% of all income taxes. The top 5% pays 51.4%. The top 10% of high income earners, pay 63.5%. The top 20% of income earners pays 78% of all federal income taxes.
The bottom 50% of income earners effectively pay no federal income tax at all.