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Thread: Educate me - Impeller size

  1. #11
    speedymopars
    If your engine makes it's power at a higher RPM, you will need a smaller impeller like a "C"...in some cases being able to get to this power range will give you more top speed. Say for example that your engine makes 500 hp at 6000 RPM. With an A impeller you wont be able to reach 6000, so you wont be using all the available power, and your speed will be dependent on getting more RPM, which = pumping more water=more thrust...
    Hope that helps
    Yes, I think that does. Trade off between top RPM/MPH and engine acceleration. In looking at it, if I am understanding it, once your HP meets the Impeller RPM curve, you don't go any faster.
    With the curve I said,
    A2 would give me 5100 RPM
    A = 5300ish
    B = 5500
    C = 6000
    Which one accelerates quicker? Which one could have more top speed? Or is it all the same just hitting the engine at a different RPM?
    Yellowboat said pulling a skiier I need an A - so an A would deliver more thrust to pull out a skiier? Or would the C just take more RPM to do the same?
    Does anyone have the other impellor curves (a2/3/4 AB, etc)?
    Sorry for all the Q's and such, I'm really trying to understand it.

  2. #12
    Sleeper CP
    For your 21' Daycrusier an A or A/B would be a good place to start. You can always trim more off an impeller but you can't add it back on.
    Don't start with anything smaller than an A/B cut.
    How high do you want to rev it?
    Sleeper CP
    565" Ford Lover

  3. #13
    speedymopars
    For your 21' Daycrusier an A or A/B would be a good place to start. You can always trim more off an impeller but you can't add it back on.
    Don't start with anything smaller than an A/B cut.
    How high do you want to rev it?
    Sleeper CP
    565" Ford Lover
    Honestly, this combo is good mechanically for a pretty high RPM 7500-8500, KB external pump, really short and light pistons, large pan, etc. Difference between 5K and 6.5K is all a perception issue more than anything else (of course lower rpm is less strain). The cams I have to choose from (IE the ones in the garage), are a hyd 240/248duration (@.050) 510 lift, and a 312/320 duration .670 lift solid roller. The dyno curve I gave was simulated using real head flow numbers with the Hyd cam. I think the roller will be a little too much RPM, and not enough bottom end with the cubes I have in this combo (I'd probably only get 3K RPM out of it).
    Are there flow numbers associated with an impeller, IE, a C flows 4000GPM @ 4000 RPM while an AB flows 4000GPM at 3000 PRM or such (made up numbers obviously). This could help me figure out what combo would go faster, assuming GPM = Thrust and speed for a given hull configuration.

  4. #14
    ck7684
    Keep in mind that with a boat, you will always be running a "high" RPM, not just touching it for a couple seconds like in a car...therefore 4000 is fairly high. You dont want to be casually cruising around with the engine reving at 6K all the time...

  5. #15
    Sleeper CP
    Are there flow numbers associated with an impeller, IE, a C flows 4000GPM @ 4000 RPM while an AB flows 4000GPM at 3000 PRM or such (made up numbers obviously). This could help me figure out what combo would go faster, assuming GPM = Thrust and speed for a given hull configuration.
    If I were you, I would figure out what the boat will be doing 85% of the time and set it up for that. I thought I read it was a 21' daycruiser. I wouldn't focus on the top speed thing. Put an A or A/B in it and if you want to go faster put a 125-150 shot of Nitrous on it and be happy.
    Out
    Sleeper CP
    565" Ford Lover

  6. #16
    speedymopars
    Keep in mind that with a boat, you will always be running a "high" RPM, not just touching it for a couple seconds like in a car...therefore 4000 is fairly high. You dont want to be casually cruising around with the engine reving at 6K all the time...
    Good point. *Very* good point.
    If I were you, I would figure out what the boat will be doing 85% of the time and set it up for that. I thought I read it was a 21' daycruiser. I wouldn't focus on the top speed thing. Put an A or A/B in it and if you want to go faster put a 125-150 shot of Nitrous on it and be happy.
    Out
    Sleeper CP
    565" Ford Lover
    I just happen to have an extra (complete kit) 175 shot in the garage sitting there doing nothing that I know will work great, and I currently have an A impeller in my jet now. Certainly will be cheaper to keep what I have for now.
    BTW - I love Nitrous
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  7. #17
    ol guy
    quik street relationship to an impeller. A cut 538. c cut 373. hope this helps figure the rpm range and where you're torque will help most with a heavy boat trying to get out of the water. Or up on plain with a skier drowning behind you in the soup.

  8. #18
    bp
    quik street relationship to an impeller. A cut 538. c cut 373. hope this helps figure the rpm range and where you're torque will help most with a heavy boat trying to get out of the water. Or up on plain with a skier drowning behind you in the soup.
    what??

  9. #19
    Jetaholic
    quik street relationship to an impeller. A cut 538. c cut 373. hope this helps figure the rpm range and where you're torque will help most with a heavy boat trying to get out of the water. Or up on plain with a skier drowning behind you in the soup.
    Actually, wouldn't that be the other way around? The A being like a 373 and the C being a 538? 373's are a stiffer ratio than 538's...just as an A is stiffer than a C I would think.

  10. #20
    Sleeper CP
    quik street relationship to an impeller. A cut 538. c cut 373. hope this helps figure the rpm range and where you're torque will help most with a heavy boat trying to get out of the water. Or up on plain with a skier drowning behind you in the soup.
    I guess that was humor, but an A is like a 2.73 gear and an D is like a 4.88 I would say Maybe not, but I think so.
    Sleeper CP
    Big Inch Ford Lover

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