hey HB. i dont think that aggressor is giving a stuffer with the bowl. I'll be talking to dave in about an hour and I'll ask him about it. I just orderd my new 9 vain bowl and dave is sending it over to jack for me,to save on shipping and time. jack is going to work over the bowl for me. now i do know that this is a new design 9 vain bowl, dave said somthing to do with the bearings and seals.as soon as i find out I'll post the info. by the way i seen your pics with your bowl all finished up and not only did jack do a KICK ASS job on your machine work but the powder coating look's great! you know how i like that blue, and just what in the hell is chet's problem,have you ever met him face to face or is he just being a hard ass behind his computer.I have all aggressor stuff and jack is helping me sort out my problems with the sanger and he never once bad mouthed aggressor. sorry im just blowing off a little steam about chet i wish he would SETTLE DOWN NOOOOW. pig_flyi