Reply With QuoteAgreed...100%. His best move is to retire. What a shame since he had top 10 talent before the juice. What a greedy SOB.
Sounds like the truth is finaly coming out. Hopefully he will just retire, go away, and leave the records to the guys who played by the rules.
Agreed...100%. His best move is to retire. What a shame since he had top 10 talent before the juice. What a greedy SOB.
The way he was dressing last week in training camp :yuk: he should retire :yuk:
That would be great but even so it totally tainted because without the roids he wouldnt be sniffing 600 at this point, so fifty more wouldnt mean a thing.
I agree that his talent is 2nd to none, but you cant argue with the facts, and they say that he cheated.
How, exactly, is a book written by two reporters a "fact?"
Here's the facts that I concern myself with. The "fact" is, the dude came back from a season long injury and hit 5 HRs in 42 at bats last year. That's a homer every 8 at bats. I'm sure he was pissing in a cup every 15 minutes last season too. The "fact" is, even in high school, Bonds was one of the most highly touted players to ever come into the league. People knew he'd be a Hall of Famer before he ever played a ML game.
One fact I would like to see is somebody actually catching him using steroids or a positive test. So far, the "facts" that I've seen wouldn't convict Bonds of anything. I try to reserve my judgement of people until I'm presented some real evidence. In my mind, a couple guys trying to sell a book is nothing more than that, just a couple of guys trying to make a buck disparaging a public figure.
What does it matter how many HR he hit last year?? Let alone in garbage at bats against AAA pitchers trying to get an invite to spring training. The Size and Strength he posseses are because of the steroids!! He can stop taking them and still be a much stronger man than he ever would have without them.
With that said I respect your opinion to withhold judgement, but this seems a bit to me obvious in all respects.
And, speaking of garbage homeruns, would you care to guess how many garbage homeruns Babe Ruth or Hank Aaron hit off of pitchers that were well over 120 pitch counts in a four man rotation?Don't get all statsy on me, I'll bury you.
No more stats, Steroids or not??? Your on the clock!!
Are you guys forgetting that he admitted taking steroids?
He said that he didn't know what he was taking. Um, yeah, OK. Whatever.
Bonds' biggest problem has always been himself. Sosa or McGwyer could go away and most people would forget or forgive their abuses. But because he is such a whining, selfish a-hole, we'll never forgive, and unfortunately, we won't forget much either.
Here is a link to the SI story. It is well written. We're not talking allegations here. The feds have the facts, apparently.
SI story coming out this week (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...313/index.html)
My gut feeling is, of course, yes. But, I'd like some actual proof.
As an aside, I feel that MLB contributed to the delinquency of McGwire, Sosa and Bonds. They needed some heroes. McGwire and Sosa set the stage and America ate it up. Bonds followed suit and we ate it up. Nobody did anything to stop it. It was very, very good for baseball at the time. Now, it's very, very bad. The guy I really feel sorry for is Raffy Palmeiro, probably one of the hardest working, most underappreciated and geniunely good guys ever to put on a uniform.
I agree 100%, but part of me wishes that Bonds would just admit it and go away. All of the above stated players were great for the game because of there charisma and appreciation for the fans. Bonds has none of that, and I think that is why the media wants him to bear the brunt of the fallout.
As far as Raffy goes, if would have just admitted it in the first place it would have gone away. But when you lie it just gets bigger and bigger, and you look worse and worse.
There's no more "facts" in that Sports Illustrated story than have been present for two years. It's not even a "story", it's an excerpt from a book published by two SF writers.
What are you waiting for, him to come over and stick a needle in his ass right in front of you?
You do admit he was heavily juiced, right? .
The guy's on Viagra, maybe he doesn't remember.
Well put!!
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