I needed some new cup holders in the boat. Seems the current ones have a defect that causes them to fly out at high speed...lol Anyhow, I called Commander and they don't have them sitting around. Called Dana Products and I was about 3 minutes away from their facility in Corona. Went by and they had the ones I wanted. I did not know you could go by there and pick up stuff from them so I thought I would pass it along. They assured me that these are not defective...hehe We shall see