Reply With Quotetake a camera and take pictures or video take the dumbA$$e$ get their number and give that to the local authorities.
Or just have an open hunting season on PWC's
Get a local lake authority with a petition to ban the water lice/water roaches
With the growing number of people on this board having run-ins with PWCers who don't have a clue, what can we do? Can Joe River goers follow the PWC that was doing __________________________ (you can fill in the blank) get the ID numbers and call the local authorities to conduct a citizenÂ’s arrest? We need to find a reasonable way to handle it with out letting it go. Scuba did the right thing by not letting his temper cause him to do something he might regret later. What can we do when it ends up being my word vs. their word type of situation?
take a camera and take pictures or video take the dumbA$$e$ get their number and give that to the local authorities.
Or just have an open hunting season on PWC's
Get a local lake authority with a petition to ban the water lice/water roaches
For a citizen's arrest, the violation must be at least a misdemeanor, felony is very cool cause you don't need to do the citizen's thing, just be a credible (and supported) witness for the arrest to happen. That's the Cali version - how's it compare to the great(er) state of Az?
Oh yeah, you must be able to Identify the person who commited the act or omission. Just getting the ID numbers won't cut it.
Seems like there should be something they could do with film or video. When your car can get a ticket from a stoplight mounted camera, you would think some sort of precedent should have been set.
There is no such thing in Arizona as a "Citizen's Arrest".
If you supply information of a crime (which reckless operation is) and aggree to act as a witness, then we (the POlice) have probable cause to arrest. We may "cite and release" in lieu of jail, but can book them if we feel it's necessary or justified.
Photos or video is perfect. They can't defend against it. It's up to a judge to determine who's word to take. Remember since it's a crime, it needs to be proved "beyond a reasonable doubt". Video or photos are the perfect evidence. Why do you think so many Police vehicles have Dash-Cams?
But as LHC30Victory said, we need the operator positively identified. We can't take action against an inanimate object, and there's nothing in the law that allows us to impound or otherwise remove a vessel from the water, based only on what the operator did.
Boatcop:
There is no such thing in Arizona as a "Citizen's Arrest".
If you supply information of a crime (which reckless operation is) and aggree to act as a witness, then we (the POlice) have probable cause to arrest. We may "cite and release" in lieu of jail, but can book them if we feel it's necessary or justified.
Photos or video is perfect. They can't defend against it. It's up to a judge to determine who's word to take. Remember since it's a crime, it needs to be proved "beyond a reasonable doubt". Video or photos are the perfect evidence. Why do you think so many Police vehicles have Dash-Cams?
But as LHC30Victory said, we need the operator positively identified. We can't take action against an inanimate object, and there's nothing in the law that allows us to impound or otherwise remove a vessel from the water, based only on what the operator did. Thanks BoatCop. Sounds like we need to carry video cameras in our boats and film every PWC approaching us. burningm
In my case if I had the camera or video cam out, it would have gotten water damage.
That seadoo got us pretty good.
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In my case if I had the camera or video cam out, it would have gotten water damage.
Perfect.
In that case you would not only see the idiot in court, but the judge could make him buy you a new video camera as restitution.
Nothing better than having the water spray right into the camera lens, as evidence of him being too close. And if the camera was more than $250.00, we could get him for Felony Criminal Damage to property. (Recklessly damaging property of another)
Boatcop:
In my case if I had the camera or video cam out, it would have gotten water damage.
Perfect.
In that case you would not only see the idiot in court, but the judge could make him buy you a new video camera as restitution.
Nothing better than having the water spray right into the camera lens, as evidence of him being too close. And if the camera was more than $250.00, we could get him for Felony Criminal Damage to property. (Recklessly damaging property of another) I guess there is more to the law then some of us know.
Thanks again Alan. I actually had time to get out the camera too. But my mind was stuck on stupid just hoping the pwc driver would change directions.
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