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Thread: Tunnel Ram or Victor?

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    BrendellaJet
    Im planning on building a 496 full roller motor for my Jetboat. how muchwill power suffer with a victor intake rather than a tunnel ram? specs will be the same as the HBJET DNE motor, I dont have specs available with me right now, but the motor makes 700 plus HP at 6300. Anyone?

  2. #2
    LakesOnly
    Carburetor size on the Victor will make a big difference in estimations....but the tunnel ram will probably allow your engine to generate an additional 30-45 HP.
    Also, tunnel rams are not only about top end, they do lots for mid-range too.
    LO

  3. #3
    BrendellaJet
    Lakes,
    What are you saying about carb size and estimations? Im planning on using an HP950.

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    Hotcrusader76
    HBJET 496 Roller motor...
    Generic Lakeboat recommendations-
    single application Victor Intake/HP950
    Victor-2R tunnel ram intake- Dual 4779s 750DPs or 660 Center squirter Hybrids (850 throttlebodys)
    Otherwise give it hell at WOT running a single Dominator or dual 950s
    ~Ty

  5. #5
    77charger
    I think a victor and a dominator is a good combo.

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    Jet City
    I haven't had enought experience with TR's to make a fair judgement, but my own future plans include a Victor 4500 intake topped with a 1050 Dominator, my goals will be in the 600 HP range, I feel this would be simple and effective for a jetboat. I have to admit part of the attraction to the Dom over a choice like the 950 HP is appearance related. I don't see how you'd go terribly wrong with any of the set-ups mentioned, provided the tuning was right.

  7. #7
    Hotcrusader76
    JCR...
    For a Lakeboat you might like the appearance but your throttleresponse will suffer. Something you may consider if you decide on something custom built is having the primary throttlebore signal increased with a larger booster skirt of low-end power and leaving the skirt smaller on the secondaries for the crisp top-end HP. A slow or fast progressive linkage would also work best with a 3-circuit Dominator.
    For a Lakeboat stay away from the 1:1 linkage even though your power to weight ratio is high. Meaning higher HP set-ups with less weight to move across the water love the 1:1 linkage set-ups, but for a cruiser application it will drive you crazy.
    Just me 0.02

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    Racing Ray
    Simply put you can not beat a PROPERLY tuned Tunnel Ram.
    However due to so many more variables tuning it properly is more of a challange for experianced tuners much less your average backyard mechanic. Once properly set-up you would never consider anything else unless you wanted better economy or class restrictions.

  9. #9
    Jet City
    I agree with your statement about the 1:1 linkage for a hot pleasure boat, but my thinking was that as quickly as jetboats flash to their RPM limit I wouldn't have thought throttle response would be much of a problem. As for the booster mods, are you basically talking about useing the 750 Dom boosters on the primary side to increase velocity, and also reducing flow to roughly 900 CFM.

  10. #10
    Hotcrusader76
    Not necessarily "750 Dominator boosters" but more or less a skirt design which obstructs the flow of the venturi and increases the signal strength at a lower RPM. Because these skirts range from .935" to 1.125" you can custom tailor the required signal (CFM flow as well) for that particular fuel curve.
    So...yes...in a basic sense, you would be buildling a Dominator that has a crisp primary circuit and a secondary that comes in for upper RPM use. Of course this would only work with a slip linkage set-up, not a 1:1 ratio. This design is consistent with the old spreadbore Holley's which used a very small primary and 2" bore secondary. Awesome set-up for rat motors.
    ~Ty

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