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Thread: I-15 & Cajon Pass - 60 car pile up

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    carbonmarine
    (04-01-2004) - The fog in California may be to blame for a massive car pile-up on Interstate 15 Thursday, according to authorities.
    Nearly 50 to 60 cars and big-rig trucks along the Cajon Pass were involved in the chain reaction accident. At least two dozen people are reported to be injured.
    Fire officials said at least four accidents along a two-mile stretch of the freeway, the main highway between Los Angeles to Las Vegas, started the accident around 6 a.m. Thursday.
    Northbound lanes of Interstate 15 were shut down for several hours while crews cleaned up the mess.

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    Mrs. Bordsmnj
    OUCH!!!
    Hope everyone is ok!

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    gnarley
    I heard about it on the news, to many people, cars and driving to fast for conditions and not skilled enough to protect themselves or the ones they are going to hurt from driving like assh*les.
    When are people going to wake up? When you drive faster than your skills are prepared for and can't handle it you might hurt others and take out innocent victims to.

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    LaveyJet
    Originally posted by Mrs. Bordsmnj
    OUCH!!!
    Hope everyone is ok!
    24 minor, 7 moderate transported to hospitals.

  5. #5
    carbonmarine
    just heard closed til midnite at least ......

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    LaveyJet
    They're still removing vehicles, but the road is open. Don't know how many lanes though...

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    Phat Matt
    I drove through their last night or this morning around 2:30am and the fog was THICK! If there was a stalled vehicle or something blocking the road it would have been real easy to get in an accident because you wouldn't see it until it was too late.

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    Laveyman
    Originally posted by Phat Matt
    I drove through their last night or this morning around 2:30am and the fog was THICK! If there was a stalled vehicle or something blocking the road it would have been real easy to get in an accident because you wouldn't see it until it was too late.
    I'm not picking on Phat Matt, just using this as an example. If this was the case, that is the perfect indicator that you are driving too fast for the prevailing conditions. All too many folks think that if the speed limit is 65, then it is okay to drive 65 no matter what the condition are. If a hazard appears out of the fog before you can stop, then you are outdriving your sight distance. I cannot tell you how many times I cited a driver at a collision for Unsafe Speed when they were driving 40 in a posted 65 zone. Yes 65 is the posted speed, but the SAFE speed was probably 25-30.
    My advice when driving on the freeway in dense fog...
    1. SLOW DOWN
    2. Get behind the biggest, heaviest tractor tralier rig you can find and follow it at a safe distance. This is the equivilent of putting a 60,000 bowling ball directly in front of your car. Trucks cannot stop for shit, but they do plow a very nice path for you to come to a safe stop behind them.
    3. Once you have come to a stop, move your car out of the way so you do not get mowed over by the next idiot driving 65 in the fog!

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    Danhercules
    yup, what he said. If you cannot stop, your going too fast.

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    Phat Matt
    Originally posted by Laveyman
    I'm not picking on Phat Matt, just using this as an example. If this was the case, that is the perfect indicator that you are driving too fast for the prevailing conditions. All too many folks think that if the speed limit is 65, then it is okay to drive 65 no matter what the condition are. If a hazard appears out of the fog before you can stop, then you are outdriving your sight distance. I cannot tell you how many times I cited a driver at a collision for Unsafe Speed when they were driving 40 in a posted 65 zone. Yes 65 is the posted speed, but the SAFE speed was probably 25-30.
    My advice when driving on the freeway in dense fog...
    1. SLOW DOWN
    2. Get behind the biggest, heaviest tractor tralier rig you can find and follow it at a safe distance. This is the equivilent of putting a 60,000 bowling ball directly in front of your car. Trucks cannot stop for shit, but they do plow a very nice path for you to come to a safe stop behind them.
    3. Once you have come to a stop, move your car out of the way so you do not get mowed over by the next idiot driving 65 in the fog!
    Thanks for not picking on me but last night if you were on a bicycle and a deer jumped out in front of you that didn't have reflectors on you probably couldn't stop in time. My point was that it was thick and it makes it alot easier for accidents to happen.

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