Reply With QuoteI read that and was totally disgusted.Problem is, that there are so many stupid people in America, that it was bound to happen.
I think that student will have to watch his back from now on.
...little ****.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1792200
I'm all for free speech, but this guy just needs a serious beat down.
Tillman proudly joined the military to make those responsible pay for the attacks on 9/11 and ensure nothing like that ever happened again. He specifically requested assignment in Afghanistan to follow through, but I guess this little dumb **** just completely ignores that.
Quote "It wasn't like he was defending the East coast from an invasion of a foreign power. THAT would have been heroic and laudable,"
Quote "He wasn't defending me "
Actually, he was.
I read that and was totally disgusted.
I think that student will have to watch his back from now on.
There's always one in the crowd somewhere.
Originally posted by HARDCORE-SKI
There's always one in the crowd somewhere.
He's the pendejo and needs a good beat down.....
They should book him a speaking engagement at Arizona State University (Tillman's alma mater) and watch the ass kicking commence
Send his ass back to Puerto Rico!
Deano
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here it is
By Rene Gonzalez
April 28, 2004
When the death of Pat Tillman occurred, I turned to my friend who was
watching the news with me and said, "How much you want to bet they start
talking about him as a 'hero' in about two hours?" Of course, my friend did
not want to make that bet. He'd lose. In this self-critical incapable
nation, nothing but a knee-jerk "He's a hero" response is to be expected.
I've been mystified at the absolute nonsense of being in "awe" of Tillman's
"sacrifice" that has been the American response. Mystified, but not
surprised. True, it's not everyday that you forgo a $3.6 million contract
for joining the military. And, not just the regular army, but the elite Army
Rangers. You know he was a real Rambo, who wanted to be in the "real" thick
of things. I could tell he was that type of macho guy, from his scowling,
beefy face on the CNN pictures. Well, he got his wish. Even Rambo got shot
in the third movie, but in real life, you die as a result of being shot.
They should call Pat Tillman's army life "Rambo 4: Rambo Attempts to Strike
Back at His Former Rambo 3 Taliban Friends, and Gets Killed."
But, does that make him a hero? I guess it's a matter of perspective. For
people in the United States, who seem to be unable to admit the stupidity of
both the Afghanistan and Iraqi wars, such a trade-off in life standards (if
not expectancy) is nothing short of heroic. Obviously, the man must be made
of "stronger stuff" to have had decided to "serve" his country rather than
take from it. It's the old JFK exhortation to citizen service to the nation,
and it seems to strike an emotional chord. So, it's understandable why
Americans automatically knee-jerk into hero worship.
However, in my neighborhood in Puerto Rico, Tillman would have been called a
"pendejo," an idiot. Tillman, in the absurd belief that he was defending or
serving his all-powerful country from a seventh-rate, Third World nation
devastated by the previous conflicts it had endured, decided to give up a
comfortable life to place himself in a combat situation that cost him his
life. This was not "Ramon or Tyrone," who joined the military out of
financial necessity, or to have a chance at education. This was a "G.I. Joe"
guy who got what was coming to him. That was not heroism, it was prophetic
idiocy.
Tillman, probably acting out his nationalist-patriotic fantasies forged in
years of exposure to Clint Eastwood and Rambo movies, decided to insert
himself into a conflict he didn't need to insert himself into. It wasn't
like he was defending the East coast from an invasion of a foreign power.
THAT would have been heroic and laudable. What he did was make himself
useful to a foreign invading army, and he paid for it. It's hard to say I
have any sympathy for his death because I don't feel like his "service" was
necessary. He wasn't defending me, nor was he defending the Afghani people.
He was acting out his macho, patriotic crap and I guess someone with a
bigger gun did him in.
Perhaps it's the old, dreamy American thought process that forces them to
put sports greats and "larger than life" sacrificial lambs on the pedestal
of heroism, no matter what they've done. After all, the American nation has
no other role to play but to be the cheerleaders of the home team; a sad
role to have to play during conflicts that suffer from severe legitimacy and
credibility problems.
Matters are a little clearer for those living outside the American borders.
Tillman got himself killed in a country other than his own without having
been forced to go over to that country to kill its people. After all,
whether we like them or not, the Taliban is more Afghani than we are. Their
resistance is more legitimate than our invasion, regardless of the fact that
our social values are probably more enlightened than theirs. For that, he
shouldn't be hailed as a hero, he should be used as a poster boy for the
dangerous consequences of too much "America is #1," frat boy, propaganda
bull. It might just make a regular man irrationally drop $3.6 million to go
fight in a conflict that was anything but "self-defense." The same could be
said of the unusual belief of 50 percent of the American nation that thinks
Saddam Hussein was behind Sept. 11. One must indeed stand in awe of the
amazing success of the American propaganda machine. It works wonders.
Al-Qaeda won't be defeated in Afghanistan, even if we did kill all their
operatives there. Only through careful and logical changing of the
underlying conditions that allow for the ideology to foster will Al-Qaeda be
defeated. Ask the Israelis if 50 years of blunt force have eradicated the
Palestinian resistance. For that reason, Tillman's service, along with that
of thousands of American soldiers, has been wrongly utilized. He did die in
vain, because in the years to come, we will realize the irrationality of the
War on Terror and the American reaction to Sept. 11. The sad part is that we
won't realize it before we send more people like Pat Tillman over to their
deaths.
Rene Gonzalez is a UMass graduate student.
Originally posted by slink
They should book him a speaking engagement at Arizona State University (Tillman's alma mater) and watch the ass kicking commence
Thinking I'll even chip in for his airline tickets to get to the speaking engagement, would be well worth the cost to have him get his ass kicked beyond recognition....
Well, Lurid, don't know about you, but I'm LIVID.............
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