Hey man! I think they are worth the bucks for the 25ft Cats and such on the larger lakes that cruise a fairly long distance then stab em hard. For lake racing I would overdrive the piss out of it and put a blown motor on methanol! http://free.***boat.net/ubb/biggrin.gif Hard to get them buddies warmed up anyway http://free.***boat.net/ubb/smile.gif