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  1. #1
    Blown 472

  2. #2
    Steve 1
    Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha! Hey you ever figure out the world is not flat yet ??

  3. #3
    Old Texan
    Nothing new there. Just another rehash of prior accusations. The Guardian of which Ricard Norton-Taylor is an editor, does seem to present opposing views for most topics and if we dig we can find rebuttal to this article.
    Blown it proves nothing and will be torn apart as usual.
    “Hindsight alone is not wisdom, And second-guessing is not a strategy.”

  4. #4
    Well, Why is this part so foreign, so forgotten, so ignored by the left????
    The invasion of Iraq was entirely legal (just some don't want to admit it just as they refuse to admit LOOSING 2 elections) due to the failure to abide by 17 UN resolutions governing behavior required to maintain the 1991 Cease-Fire. The 1991 war never ended, and could be legally resumed at any time. Guess what, we are still actively at war with N Korea too. Same situation exists there, no peace treaty, just a 50-yr-old cease-fire.

  5. #5
    The list of resolutions .......
    660 (2 August 1990): Iraq-Kuwait (PDF).
    Condemns the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait and demands Iraq's immediate and unconditional withdrawal.
    661 (6 August 1990): Iraq-Kuwait (PDF).
    Imposes comprehensive sanctions on Iraq and establishes a sanctions committee (the "661 committee") in paragraph 6 to monitor them. Paragraphs 3 and 4 drawn from those of SCR 253.
    662 (9 August 1990): Iraq-Kuwait (PDF).
    Decides that Iraq's annexation of Kuwait is "null and void".
    664 (18 August 1990): Iraq-Kuwait (PDF).
    Demands that Iraq release "third state nationals".
    665 (25 August 1990): Iraq-Kuwait (PDF).
    Imposes a shipping blockade by calling for the use of "such measures ... as may be necessary" to enforce the maritime embargo. In effect, this resolution reassigns some of the practical responsibility for monitoring compliance with sanctions away from the UN machinery, in the form of the 661 committee, and to the States imposing the naval blockade.
    666 (13 September 1990): Iraq-Kuwait (PDF).
    "Decides [to] ... keep the situation regarding foodstuffs ... under constant review", giving the Security Council responsibility for determining when "humanitarian circumstances" had arisen.
    667 (16 September 1990): Iraq-Kuwait (PDF).
    Protests "the closure of diplomatic and consular missions in Kuwait".
    669 (24 September 1990): Iraq-Kuwait (PDF).
    Asks the Sanctions Committee to consider requests for economic assistance from countries harmed by the sanctions on Iraq.
    670 (25 September 1990): Iraq-Kuwait (PDF).
    Strengthens and clarifies the embargo; confirms that it applies to aircraft. France and the USA disagree on whether 670 requires 661 approval for flights without cargo. Paragraph 12 of the resolution also invokes the possibility of unspecified "measures" against states that evade the sanctions regime. This paragraph seems to have been directed against Jordan and Sudan in particular. It caused disquiet within delegations, as the United Nations Charter has traditionally been interpreted as only permitting the Security Council to impose such measures against the state responsible for a breach of or threat to the peace.
    674 (29 October 1990): Iraq-Kuwait (PDF).
    "Reminds Iraq that ... it is liable for any loss ... as a result of the invasion ... of Kuwait".
    677 (28 November 1990): Iraq-Kuwait (PDF).
    Concerned by Iraq's attempts to "alter the demographic composition of ... Kuwait and to destroy the civil records".
    678 (29 November 1990): Iraq-Kuwait (PDF).
    "Authorizes Member States ... to use all necessary means" to bring Iraq into compliance with previous Security Council resolutions if it did not do so by 15 January 1991.
    686 (2 March 1991): Iraq-Kuwait (PDF).
    Affirms the "independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity of Iraq" and sets out terms for a cease-fire. The use of force remains valid to fulfil these conditions.
    687 (3 April 1991): Iraq-Kuwait (PDF).
    Declares effective a formal cease-fire (upon Iraqi acceptance), establishes the UN Special Commission on weapons (Unscom), extends sanctions and, in paragraphs 21 and 22, provides ambiguous conditions for lifting or easing them. Described as a "Christmas tree", because "so much was hung on it". The fourth preambulary clause, on "the need to be assured of Iraq's peaceful intentions", has been referred to as the "Saddam Hussein clause" as it has been used to link the continuation of sanctions with the survival of the present Iraqi regime.
    688 (5 April 1991): Iraq (PDF).
    "Condemns the repression of the Iraqi civilian population" in the post-war civil war and "[d]emands that Iraq ... immediately end this repression". 688 is occasionally claimed to provide the legal basis for the American and British "no fly zones". These claims are incorrect both because 688 does not invoke Chapter VII of the UN Charter, a necessary condition for the use of force, and because it does not authorise specific measures to uphold human rights in Iraq, such as "no fly zones". The BBC has an outline of the "no fly zones" here. The UK Select Committee on Defence addresses the legal issue briefly here.
    692 (20 May 1991): Iraq-Kuwait (PDF).
    Establishes the UN Compensation Commission and asks the Secretary-General to indicate the maximum possible level of Iraq's contribution to the Compensation Fund.
    700 (17 June 1991): Iraq-Kuwait (PDF).
    Approves the Secretary-General's guidelines on an arms and dual-use embargo on Iraq and calls upon states to act consistently with them. Paragraph 5 of this resolution makes the 661 committee responsible for the on-going monitoring regime, thus ensuring that it would retain a role in the long-term relationship between the UN and Iraq.
    705 (15 August 1991): Iraq (PDF).
    "Decides that ... compensation to be paid by Iraq ... shall not exceed 30 per cent of the annual value of the exports".
    706 (15 August 1991): Iraq-Kuwait (PDF).
    Decides to allow emergency oil sale by Iraq to fund compensation claims, weapons inspection and humanitarian needs in Iraq.
    707 (15 August 1991): Iraq (PDF).
    Condemns Iraq's non-compliance on weapons inspections as a "material breach" of Resolution 687, and incorporates into its standard for compliance with SCR687 that Iraq provide "full, final and complete disclosure ... of all aspects of its programmes to develop" prohibited weaponry. Also grants permission for Unscom and the IAEA to conduct flights throughout Iraq, for surveillance or logistical purposes.
    712 (19 September 1991): Iraq (PDF).
    Rejects the Secretary-General's suggestion that at least $2 billion in oil revenue be made available for humanitarian needs; instead allows total sale of $1.6 billion. Eventually rejected by Government of Iraq.
    715 (11 October 1991): Iraq (PDF).
    Approves the plans of Unscom and the IAEA, including for long term monitoring. Iraq agreed to the monitoring system established by this resolution on 26 November 1993.
    778 (2 October 1992): Iraq-Kuwait (PDF).
    Deplores Iraq's refusal to implements SCRs 706 and 712 and recalls Iraq's liabilities. Takes steps to transfer funds (including Iraqi assets overseas) into the UN account established to pay for compensation and humanitarian expenses.
    806 (5 February 1993): Iraq-Kuwait (PDF).
    Arms UNIKOM to prevent border incursions by Iraq.
    949 (15 October 1994): Iraq-Kuwait.
    "Condemns recent military deployments by Iraq in the direction of ... Kuwait", demands an immediate withdrawal and full co-operation with Unscom. According to a spokesman for the US Central Command, the resolution was passed following a threatening buildup of Iraqi forces near the border with Kuwait, and bars Iraq from moving SAMs into the southern no-fly zone.
    986 (14 April 1995): Iraq
    New "oil for food" resolution, allowing $1 billion in oil sales every 90 days. Memorandum of understanding signed by UN and Government of Iraq on 20 May 1996; Phase I begins on 10 December 1996. The details of implementation, requested in paragraph 12, are here.
    1051 (27 March 1996): Iraq.
    Establishes mechanism for long-term monitoring of potentially "dual use" Iraqi imports and exports, as called for by SCR 715.
    1060 (12 June 1996): Iraq.
    On Iraq's refusal to allow access to sites designated by the Special Commission.
    1115 (21 June 1997): Iraq-Kuwait.
    "Condemns the repeated refusal of the Iraqi authorities to allow access to sites" and "[d]emands that [they] cooperate fully" with Unscom. Suspends the sanctions and arms embargo reviews (paragraphs 21 and 28 of SCR 687) until the next Unscom report and threatens to "impose additional measures on those categories of Iraqi officials responsible for the non-compliance".
    1129 (12 September 1997): Iraq-Kuwait.
    Alters timing of permitted Phase II oil sales in response to Iraqi government's refusal to sell oil until its Distribution Plan was approved by the UN.
    1134 (23 October 1997): Iraq-Kuwait
    Reaffirms Iraq's obligations to cooperate with weapons inspectors after Iraqi officials announce in September 1997 that "presidential sites" are off-limits to inspectors. Threatens travel ban on obstructive Iraqi officials not "carrying out bona fide diplomatic assignments or missions" if non-cooperation continues. Sanctions reviews again delayed.
    1137 (12 November 1997): Iraq-Kuwait
    Rejects Iraqi government's announced intention to prohibit weapons inspections unless the composition of Unscom teams is altered to limit the number of inspectors from the US, and to prohibit Unscom overflights. Imposes travel ban on officials to be lifted when full cooperation resumes. Sanctions review to be in April 1998 if cooperation has been restored.
    1143 (4 December 1997): Iraq-Kuwait.
    Begins Phase III of "oil for food", to start on 5 December 1997 and welcomes the Secretary-General's intention to submit a supplementary report on possible improvements in the "oil for food" programme.
    1154 (2 March 1998): Iraq-Kuwait.
    Commends the Secretary-General for securing commitments from the Iraqi government to fully comply with weapons inspections on his mission to Baghdad, and endorses the memorandum of understanding (S/1998/166) that was signed on 23 February. The mapping of the areas of the eight "presidential sites" by a UN Technical Mission is described in an annexed report to a letter from the Secretary-General of 27 February (S/1998/166/Add.1). The procedures for the inspection of "presidential sites" are laid out in an annex to the letter from the Secretary-General of 8 March 1998 (S/1998/208). This agreement put off US and British bombing threats.
    1194 (9 September 1998): Iraq-Kuwait.
    "Condemns the decision by Iraq ... to suspend cooperation with [Unscom] and the IAEA", demands that the decisions be reversed and cancels October 1998 scheduled sanctions review.
    1205 (5 November 1998): Iraq-Kuwait.
    Echoes SCR 1194, demands that the Iraqi government "provide immediate, complete and unconditional cooperation" with inspectors and alludes to the threat to "international peace and security" posed by the non-cooperation.
    Resolution proposed by Spain, the US and the UK, which would have authorized military action against Iraq (7 March 2003)
    Comments of Kofi Annan on 10 March, 11 March and 17 March
    Joint statement by France, Russia and Germany in opposition to a UN resolution authorizing force
    Statements by France and Germany (19 March)
    1483 (22 May 2003)
    Lifts non-military sanctions (para 10)
    Recognises Britain and the United States as occupying powers ('The Authority'), and calls on them to attempt to improve security and stability, and provide opportunities for the Iraqis to determine their political future. Creates position of UN Special Representative to Iraq, to coordinate UN activity. Requires establishment of Development Fund for Iraq
    The bold ones were either violated, or responses to violations of other sanctions.

  6. #6
    havasu5150'll just confuse him with fact and logic

  7. #7
    I know, done it before. Every time it happens, he returns fire with "The joooooooos started it". :skull:

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    Blown 472
    I know, done it before. Every time it happens, he returns fire with "The joooooooos started it". :skull:
    A list of UN Resolutions against "Israel"
    * Resolution 106: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for Gaza raid".
    * Resolution 111: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people".
    * Resolution 127: " . . . 'recommends' Israel suspends it's 'no-man's zone' in Jerusalem".
    * Resolution 162: " . . . 'urges' Israel to comply with UN decisions".
    * Resolution 171: " . . . determines flagrant violations' by Israel in its attack on Syria".
    * Resolution 228: " . . . 'censures' Israel for its attack on Samu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control".
    * Resolution 237: " . . . 'urges' Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees".
    * Resolution 248: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan".
    * Resolution 250: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to refrain from holding military parade in Jerusalem".
    * Resolution 251: " . . . 'deeply deplores' Israeli military parade in Jerusalem in defiance of Resolution 250".
    * Resolution 252: " . . . 'declares invalid' Israel's acts to unify Jerusalem as Jewish capital".
    * Resolution 256: " . . . 'condemns' Israeli raids on Jordan as 'flagrant violation".
    * Resolution 259: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to accept UN mission to probe occupation".
    * Resolution 262: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for attack on Beirut airport".
    * Resolution 265: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for air attacks for Salt in Jordan".
    * Resolution 267: " . . . 'censures' Israel for administrative acts to change the status of Jerusalem".
    *Resolution 270: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for air attacks on villages in southern Lebanon".
    * Resolution 271: " . . . 'condemns' Israel's failure to obey UN resolutions on Jerusalem".
    * Resolution 279: " . . . 'demands' withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon".
    * Resolution 280: " . . . 'condemns' Israeli's attacks against Lebanon".
    * Resolution 285: " . . . 'demands' immediate Israeli withdrawal form Lebanon".
    * Resolution 298: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's changing of the status of Jerusalem".
    * Resolution 313: " . . . 'demands' that Israel stop attacks against Lebanon".
    * Resolution 316: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for repeated attacks on Lebanon".
    * Resolution 317: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon".
    * Resolution 332: " . . . 'condemns' Israel's repeated attacks against Lebanon".
    * Resolution 337: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for violating Lebanon's sovereignty".
    * Resolution 347: " . . . 'condemns' Israeli attacks on Lebanon".
    * Resolution 425: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon".
    * Resolution 427: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to complete its withdrawal from Lebanon.
    * Resolution 444: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's lack of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces".
    * Resolution 446: " . . . 'determines' that Israeli settlements are a 'serious
    obstruction' to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention".
    * Resolution 450: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon".
    * Resolution 452: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to cease building settlements in occupied territories".
    * Resolution 465: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's settlements and asks all member
    states not to assist Israel's settlements program".
    * Resolution 467: " . . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's military intervention in Lebanon".
    * Resolution 468: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of
    two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their return".
    * Resolution 469: " . . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's failure to observe the
    council's order not to deport Palestinians".
    * Resolution 471: " . . . 'expresses deep concern' at Israel's failure to abide
    by the Fourth Geneva Convention".
    * Resolution 476: " . . . 'reiterates' that Israel's claim to Jerusalem are 'null and void'".
    * Resolution 478: " . . . 'censures (Israel) in the strongest terms' for its
    claim to Jerusalem in its 'Basic Law'".
    * Resolution 484: " . . . 'declares it imperative' that Israel re-admit two deported
    Palestinian mayors".
    * Resolution 487: " . . . 'strongly condemns' Israel for its attack on Iraq's
    nuclear facility".
    * Resolution 497: " . . . 'decides' that Israel's annexation of Syria's Golan
    Heights is 'null and void' and demands that Israel rescinds its decision forthwith".
    * Resolution 498: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon".
    * Resolution 501: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and withdraw its troops".
    * Resolution 509: " . . . 'demands' that Israel withdraw its forces forthwith and unconditionally from Lebanon".
    * Resolution 515: " . . . 'demands' that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and
    allow food supplies to be brought in".
    * Resolution 517: " . . . 'censures' Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions
    and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon".
    * Resolution 518: " . . . 'demands' that Israel cooperate fully with UN forces in Lebanon".
    * Resolution 520: " . . . 'condemns' Israel's attack into West Beirut".
    * Resolution 573: " . . . 'condemns' Israel 'vigorously' for bombing Tunisia
    in attack on PLO headquarters.
    * Resolution 587: " . . . 'takes note' of previous calls on Israel to withdraw
    its forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw".
    * Resolution 592: " . . . 'strongly deplores' the killing of Palestinian students
    at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops".
    * Resolution 605: " . . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's policies and practices
    denying the human rights of Palestinians.
    * Resolution 607: " . . . 'calls' on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly
    requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention.
    * Resolution 608: " . . . 'deeply regrets' that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians".
    * Resolution 636: " . . . 'deeply regrets' Israeli deportation of Palestinian civilians.
    * Resolution 641: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's continuing deportation of Palestinians.
    * Resolution 672: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for violence against Palestinians
    at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount.
    * Resolution 673: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to cooperate with the United
    * Resolution 681: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's resumption of the deportation of
    * Resolution 694: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's deportation of Palestinians and
    calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return.
    * Resolution 726: " . . . 'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of Palestinians.
    * Resolution 799: ". . . 'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of 413 Palestinians
    and calls for their immediate return.

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    See????????? :crossx: :crossx: :crossx: :crossx:

  10. #10
    Funny....unlike the resolutions about iraq....These condemn, regret and admonish.....but do not authorize the use of military force.

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